Guide to Using Sony A-Mount Lenses on Sony a7RII by Brian Smith
Guide to Using Sony A-Mount Lenses on Sony a7RII
http://briansmith.com/sony-a-mount-lens-sony-a7rii-guide/
Sony a7RII’s back-illuminated sensor is the world’s first fullframe sensor with an on-sensor Phase Detection AF system capable of fast autofocus using SSM and SAM DSLR lenses. Sony A-mount Lenses include both motorized SSM and SAM lenses as well as non-motorized Screw Drive lenses.
I tested out every lens I could get many hands on and here’s a breakdown of which adapters worked best on each. All testing was done under indoor lighting either at B&H Photo, the Sony Store in NYC or at Photoshop World which in all cases was less-than-bright testing conditions.
SONY A-MOUNT SSM & SAM LENSES
Sony LA-EA3 Lens Adapter allow Sony SSM and SAM lenses to achieve fast autofocus using a7RII’s entire 399-point PDAF and 25-point Contrast AF system in both AF-C and AF-S modes.SONY A-MOUNT SCREW-DRIVE LENSES
Sony and Minolta Screw-drive Lenses have no focus motor in the lens so for AF, they need an lens adapter with its own focus motor like the Sony LA-EA4 Lens Adapter to provide AF with screw drive lenses. But because the LA-EA4 adapter uses it’s focus system – not the cameras – A-mount lenses won’t benefit from the a7RII’s large focus area or increased focus speed. Screw-drive lenses can also be used with a Sony LA-EA3 Lens Adapter but it will only work in manual focus mode.Sony LA-EA3 and Sony LA-EA4 Lens Adapters
Sony LA-EA3 Lens Adapter
Focus Points:
399 Phase Detection / 25 Contrast AF PointsFocus Modes:
AF-C, AF-S, Manual FocusFocus Areas:
Wide, Center, Flexible SpotMisc:
Face Detection: YesEye-AF: No
Center Lock-On AF: No
Light loss: None
Sony LA-EA4 Lens Adapter
Focus Points:
15 Phase Detection AF PointsFocus Modes:
AF-C, AF-A, AF-S, DMF, Manual FocusFocus Areas:
Wide, Center, Flexible Spot, Lock-On AFMisc:
Face Detection: YesEye-AF: No
Center Lock-On AF: Yes
Light loss: Approx 1/2 Stop
AF System Selection using LA-EA3
This is actually the most important new setting on Sony a7RII cameras. It allows users to select between 399-point Phase Detection AF or 25-point Contrast AF when an A-Mount lens is used with a LA-EA3 adapter (but not a LA-EA4) or when using third-party AF-capable Smart Lens Adapters.The Phase Detection AF setting allows you to finally shoot in continuous AF-C mode with choices of Wide, Center or Flexible Spot Focus Areas. I’ve tested both AF-C and AF-S with a wide range of Sony A-mount lenses using a Sony LA-EA3 Adapter and in all my tests I found best performance was achieved using the default setting of Phase Detection AF.
Please note that Face Detection works when Sony A-Mount lenses are used with a Sony LA-EA3 adapter, but Eye-AF and Center Lock-On AF are not compatible. While the performance of many third-party lenses like Sony A-Mount and Canon EF lenses on a7RII is greatly improved, you still get the best performance and most AF features using native FE lenses.
Here’s a look at how Sony A-Mount lenses perform on Sony a7RII using the camera’s on-sensor Phase Detection AF system with Sony smart adapters.
SONY A-MOUNT ZOOMS
Sony a7RII + Sony 24-70mm f/2.8 ZA SSM II lens
Sony 16-35mm f/2.8 ZA Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony 16-35mm f/2.8 ZA SSM II Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony 24-70mm f/2.8 ZA Lens (Discontinued)
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony 24-70mm f/2.8 ZA SSM II Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony 28-75mm f/2.8 SAM Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony 70-200mm f/2.8 G Lens (Discontinued)
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony 70-200mm F2.8 G II Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 G Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 G SSM II Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony 70-400mm f/4-5.6 G lens (Discontinued)
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony 70-400mm f/4-5.6 G II Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
SONY A-MOUNT PRIMES
Sony a7RII + Sony 500mm/F4 G lens
Sony 16mm f/2.8 Fisheye Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA4 This is a screw-drive focus lens so only LA-EA4 provides fast AF-C and AF-S using it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony LA-EA3 can be used for manual focus.
Sony 20mm f/2.8 Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA4 This is a screw-drive focus lens so only LA-EA4 provides fast AF-C and AF-S using it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony LA-EA3 can be used for manual focus.
Sony 24mm f/2 ZA Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony 35mm f/1.4 G Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA4 This is a screw-drive focus lens so only LA-EA4 provides fast AF-C and AF-S using it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony LA-EA3 can be used for manual focus.
Sony 50mm f/1.4 Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA4 This is a screw-drive focus lens so only LA-EA4 provides fast AF-C and AF-S using it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony LA-EA3 can be used for manual focus.
Sony 50mm f/1.4 ZA Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony 50mm f/2.8 Macro Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA4 This is a screw-drive focus lens so only LA-EA4 provides fast AF-C and AF-S using it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony LA-EA3 can be used for manual focus.
Sony 85mm f/1.4 ZA Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA4 This is a screw-drive focus lens so only LA-EA4 provides fast AF-C and AF-S using it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony LA-EA3 can be used for manual focus.
Sony 85mm f/2.8 SAM
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony 100mm f/2.8 Macro Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA4 This is a screw-drive focus lens so only LA-EA4 provides fast AF-C and AF-S using it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony LA-EA3 can be used for manual focus.
Sony 135mm f/1.8 ZA Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA4 This is a screw-drive focus lens so only LA-EA4 provides fast AF-C and AF-S using it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony LA-EA3 can be used for manual focus.
Sony 135mm f/2.8 STF Manual Focus Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 As the name implies, this is a manual focus lens and no adapter will change that, so you might was well use the less expensive adapter.
Sony 300mm f/2.8 G II Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony 500mm f/4 G Lens
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
MINOLTA MAXXUM A-MOUNT LENSES
With the exception of the Minolta 70-200mm f/2 8 D APO G SSM and Minolta 300mm f/2 8 D APO G SSM, all other Minolta Maxxum A-mount lenses are screw drive and only Sony LA-EA4 provides AF-C and AF-S with screw drives lenses using it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.Sony LA-EA3 can be used for manual focus.
SIGMA A-MOUNT LENSES
I’ll add results from tests of third party A-mount lenses whenever I can get my hands on them. Here are a few that I’ve tried so far.Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 DG HSM II A-mount
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA4 provides fast AF-C and AF-S using it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sony LA-EA3 can be used for manual focus.
Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 IF EX DG HSM A-mount
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art Lens A-mount
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sigma 50mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM Lens A-mount
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sigma 85mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM Lens A-mount
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
Sigma 150mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM APO Macro Lens A-mount
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points.
TAMRON A-MOUNT LENSES
Tamron SP 150-600mm f/5-6.3 Di A-mount
RECOMMENDED ADAPTER:Sony LA-EA3 offers fast and accurate AF-C and AF-S with Wide, Center and Flexible Spot Focus Areas.
Sony LA-EA4 can also be used but it uses it’s own focus system that does not take advantage of a7RII’s 399 Phase Detection and 25 Contrast AF points. Note: This A-mount version performs much better than Tamron or Sigma’s Canon EF 150-600 which are virtually worthless for AF.
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Comments
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Ive been so tired of seeing all the Canon lens coverage with the a7rII – What about those of use smart enough to leave Canon years ago?! Haha. This is exactly what Ive been looking for – great coverage Brian!
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Great article. But if you measured it, I missed it: While the LA-EA3 appears preferable in most situations where it is compatible with the lens’ autofocus system, because of the increase in the number and type of autofocus points, is that preference because of the SPEED of the autofocus, or the ACCURACY, or the FLEXIBILITY?
From the few user reports that break down these criteria, it sounds like:
1. The LA-EA3 wins for FLEXIBILITY.
2. The LA-EA3 and LA-EA4 are equivalent for ACCURACY when shooting a subject covered by their autofocus points (though of course the 3 wins when the subject is outside the coverage of the 4 but within the coverage of the 3.)
3. The LA-EA4 wins for SPEED.
What did your testing determine?
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Brian,
Thanks for this post. I have an A7II and i’m using the Tamron 150-600mm with the LA-EA4 adaptor with fairly successful results. Would there be any benefit of using the LA-EA3 instead or would it not be compatible with the Tamron or force me to use only Manual Focus. All these adaptors still confuse me a bit
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hello Brian,
thank you for this , i have the sony SAL500mm and also the LA-EA3 and LA-EA4
i,m not sure which adapter is the more presice for this lens , when you photograph a bird on a branch
if you use the LA-EA4 with this lens you need micro-adjustment.
do you think the LA-EA3 is more accurate ??????
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Thank you for the detailed guide. I was using LA-EA4 coupled with 135 1.8 on my A7II. Unfortunately the AF was so unconsistent with this adapter. I did lots of micro focus adjustments. This worked well for the very same distance, ie. If I did the micro adjustment with a chart placed 10 meters away, I was having a perfect focus for objects ~8-12 meters away. But if I was to shoot something 20 meters away, boom!, front focusing all the time. Therefore I sold LAEA4 and switched to LA-EA3 and now I’m using manual focus only. LA-EA4 was a sad story for me.
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If I have the choice between buying a Tamron 150-600mm for either Sony A-mount or Canon EF-mount for use on an A7rII, which should I choose?
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Does any of these adapters work with 1.4x or 2.0x teleconverters?
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Hi Brian!
thanks – this is super-helpful in choosing what lens to pair my A7Rii with.
On to 70-400mm lenses, You say the old lens AF-speed is acceptable and the new on is fast. I would really appreciate it if You could elaborate a little bit more. If You remember those two tests, is the new one “birds-in flight”-fast and the old one “hunts but eventually gets there in a second or two fast” – or how would You describe the difference? (trying to find out if the old one is fast enough for a possible safari-trip; it’s quite a bit cheaper (used) than a new G2 lens
thanks, Staffan
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Thanks Brian!
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Thank you. Great information here. At first i didn’t realize I needed both adapters for all my A mount lenses
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That’s what I was thinking too! But I’m curious about light loss of the two. There’s only a 9mm difference in thickness between the 3 and the 4. Why does the 3 have no light loss and the 4 carry 1/2 stop?
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Thank you again, Brian! Makes sense.
Except now I can’t call it a mirror-less system! (boohoo) (Until I decide to invest in native E-mount lenses, that I THOUGHT I was smartly avoiding (on Sony’s advice!) when I spent a bunch of extra cash on 4 full frame A-mounts for my a77M2.)
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Brian,
Thanks so much for this review. As a thus far A-mount only shooter it is very helpful. I found your comments regarding the telephoto A-mount lenses most interesting, particularly the two versions of the 70-400 and the 500/4. It is a bit disappointing to hear that the AF speed with the 500 is only “acceptable,” but it is not all that surprising. A Canon shooting friend recently got the A7R II and was able to test one previously with his Canon 200-400/4 (with the built-in 1.4x converter). His finding were that the lens would not AF on the A7R II in anything but good light. It seems that the camera’s AF system may have some issues in focusing super-telephoto lenses, and also that the maximum aperture of the lens will impact the AF speed (or at least can). There are many reports that the camera has issues focusing in low light, but there also is a video from dpreview showing that with the E-mount 35/1.4 it does about as well in low light as the Nikon D750 and latest Canon body. I don’t know to what extent you do much low light shooting, other than perhaps in the studio, but for us event shooters it would be interesting to know how well lenses like the 24-70/2.8 and 70-200/2.8 do in low light levels. From your above review it appears they do quite well, at least in “normal” light levels.
As an A-mount shooter, and with all the questions about whether Sony will do an A99 II or similar level camera, the A7R II may be the only way to “upgrade” from the A99, which then presents the quandary of which A-mount lenses to use with the camera, and which E-mount lenses to perhaps add. Assuming Sony does not do an A99 successor, and the A-mount cameras have come to the end of the road (I personally hope not), then moving to a 7 series camera plus adapters will be the only recourse for dedicated A-mount shooters (other than switching systems). Thus, overall performance with A-mount lenses and adapters is a serious issue and concern for many of us, and your review is at least a first step in helping us figure out what may make the most sense. Were I to go with the A7R II as my A99 “upgrade,” I could see selling my screw mount lenses (including the 85/1.4 and 135/1.8), and moving to something like the Batis 85mm (though loss of the 135/1.8 would be hard to deal with given how great that lens is). Also, the “acceptable” AF with the 500/4 (which I have) is another concern for my wildlife shooting. I guess time will tell what Sony has in store for the A-mount system going forward.
The only other question I would pose is whether you have noticed any degradation of optical performance with the LA-E3 adapter (due to possible alignment discrepancies).
Thanks again for your pretty thorough review of your impressions of the A-mount lenses on the A7R II.
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Thanks much Brian. I agree that the 70-400 II has improved AF over the v.I lens (which I have), and I did notice that you rated the v.II lens as having excellent AF. A significant reason why I’ve contemplated upgrading my lens but have not yet pulled the trigger. (I also have considered upgrading my Minolta version of the 70-200/2.8 SSM G lens, but the ridiculous price of the v.II Sony lens is a deal-killer at this point, particularly given that the optics are basically the same, save for the lens coatings. From your review I gather that the AF performance of the original 70-200/2.8 is fine.)
Based on your comments, I suspect the 500/4 AF performance on the A7R II would improve in outdoor, better light situations, hopefully even the magic light hours when the “best” wildlife opportunities usually occur (with certain exceptions). Unfortunately, low light situations seem to still be a weakness for the mirrorless AF systems, even if it is (much) improved on the A7R II, and that slower maximum aperture lenses exacerbate the issue.
I expect to spend quite a bit of time playing with the A7R II at Photo Plus this year (and hope to see you there), and will then make some decisions.
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I only have the Sony APS-C A-Mount lenses. Any comment for using these lenses with the new Sony format (A7R II)?
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Dear Mr. Smith. 1) Thank you so much for providing accurate information in a calm and polite voice.
2) I wonder if you have information about *image quality* (IQ) in comparing:
2.1) LA-EA3+Sony A 16-35mm f/2.8 ZA SSM II Lens
vs Sony FE 16-35mm f/4 ZA
2.2) Sony FE 70-200mm f/4 G vs
LA-EA3+Sony A 70-200mm f/2.8 II Lens vs
LA-EA3+Sony A 70-400mm II Lens
2.3) LA-EA3+Sony A 24-70mm f/2.8 ZA SSM II Lens
vs Sony FE 24-70mm f/4 ZA
2.4) LA-EA3+Sony A mount macro vs
90 FE macro.
Context to define my standards, and my guesses so far.
I have an A7R and an A7RII since August 6 (June order at B&H)
with the Sony FE 24-70 and
Fotodiox adapter + 5 Hasselblad V lenses: 40, 50, 80, 120f5.6, and 250.
I rarely use the 24-70 due to disappointing IQ.
I “inherited” the Hasselblad lens and related equipment from myself,
due to working my way through college as a photographer.
For many years I printed Ektacolor 16″x20″ at home (and developed own film).
I now print 16×20 color on my Canon IPF5100 (using photoshop CS6).
I bought an Imacon 848 and scanned my non-commerical negatives and some transparencies, and am slowly re-printing the faded Ektacolor, and many others.
I would love the Batis lenses (but only 2 of 6 or more that are needed are available)
with the LED hyperfocal distance display (would love to have that everywhere),
but naturally would prefer a zoom if the choice does not sacrifice too much IQ.
I do expect to buy the 90 2.8 FE macro to replace the function of my Hasselblad 120 macro,
and am optimistic it will satisfy me on IQ.
I want a super telephoto, and plan to test the Sigma 150-600S or C to see if I can accept the IQ. The Sigma 300-800 5.6 has tremendous appeal. The price, even used, is a hard nut to swallow, but every reviewer claims it competes with prime lenses in IQ.
Sincerely yours,
Keith
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Hi,
Based on your review, all SSM lenses should be used with the lae3 adapter. Would those lenses require any micro focus adjustment when using this adapter? I suppose not since final focussing is done on the sensor. Can you confirm this?
Regards
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Do you have any experience with non-sony lenses but in sony A mount (tamron, sigma etc) ? Will LA-EA3 work if they have internal motors?
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Will the LA-EA3 work better than the LA-EA4 with Minolta AF lenses?
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Brian,
Do you know if the newer version of the Tamron 90mm Macro Sp with VR will autofocus with the LAE3 adapter?
THanks
James
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Thanks for this article Brian!
I especially appreciate that you outline the fact that Eye AF, and by extension continuous Eye AF, do NOT work with adapted A-Mount lenses, SSM, SAM, or otherwise. Yours is the first article on the web that I’ve found that mentions that! And I’m not going to lie, it’s a disappointment, cause Eye AF is the main reason that I’m looking at moving to mirrorless over my Sony DSLRs.
Also… when you say “There is absolutely no image degradation using LA-EA3. It offers better image quality than using LA-EA4 (or a99, a77 or a77II) because there is no SLT mirror.”
… are you refrain only to the light loss that the pellicle mirror introduces? Or are there ANY other types of image degradation that you have noticed with the a99, a77, or a77II? I’ve always wondered if there’s the possibility of any ghosting, or flare, or softness, or really any other kind of annomoly that I haven’t listed being introduced by the SLT camera design. And it’s one of the reasons why I still shoot all my work with an a900.
The high ISO performance of the A7rII would be really nice to have, but only 10% of my images need to be shot at 1600 ISO, and 1% at 3200 ISO, and with a bit of noise reduction in Lightroom (and accurate exposure ensuring that I don’t have to brighten the exposure AT ALL in Lightroom) I’m satisfied with the a900 and so are my clients. Clients don’t pixel peep, photographers do!
I have a lot of screw drive Minolta Lenses, but until I can adapt with continuous Eye AF my Sony/Zeiss Planar 50mm F1.4 SSM, my Sony/Zeiss Planar 85mm F1.4, my Sony/Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 24-70mm F2.8 SSM v1, and ideally some of my favourite Minolta lenses like the 35mm F2 RS, and the 50mm Macro F2.8 RS, I’ll probably stick with my beloved a900 cameras.
That said, do you think the release of an LA-EA5 or LA-EA6 could offer the AF features for A-Mount glass that the native FE lenses enjoy? Or do you think that an A9 (or an a99II) could offer both screw drive lens support and on-sensor phase detection AF? With Eye AF working maybe just for the A-Mount SSM and SAM lenses… I doubt the screw drive lenses could move their glass in small enough and precise enough increments for Continuous Eye AF to work, though I have high hopes that at the very least Continuous Eye AF will be possible with my rather “newly released” Sony/Zeiss Planar 50mm F1.4 SSM on a future A-Mount camera or A-Mount adapter on an A7 series or A9 series camera. That lens is what I shoot 80% of my work with. And I don’t find the almost clinical look of the Sony/Zeiss 55mm F1.8 FE lens to my liking. Plus I like the extra light transmission of the A-Mount Planar, and the slightly shallower depth of field too much to ever let that lens go!
Sony could probably hook me if they released an E-Mount 50mm F1.2, or F1.0 Autofocus FE lens (or if ZEISS released a Batis with a similar focal length and F-stop). I’d be all in. Cause at 85mm, the subject to background separation of the BATIS looks to be good enough for me to let my 85mm Planar go. And at 35mm, the Sony/Zeiss 35mm Distagon F1.4 FE lens looks to be much better than my Minolta 35mm F2 RS and also MUCH better than the A-Mount 35mm F1.4 lenses by Minolta and rebranded by Sony.
A lot of thoughts here. And a lot of questions… But I just dropped my 85mm Planar at Saturday’s shoot, and it’ll be the second time I’ve had to send it to Sony for repairs (due to dropping it) so I expect it’ll be anywhere from MYR2,470 (MYR2,470 ($600))-2000 dollars to fix it, so I always weigh my options of selling all the incompatible stuff and moving away from the a900 A-Mount cameras everytime I have to make any gear replacement purchase.Here’s a link to view my work in case you’re curious. http://clients.byfieldpitman.com
As you’ll undoubtedly notice I’m a 35mm, 50mm, 85mm prime lens shooter. And the A-Moutn options that I use are, well, stunning, for what I’m looking to do with them!
Cheers,
Ben
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Hi Brian, thank you for doing all the heavy lifting on these compatibility tests. It’s very much appreciated. I know you’ve mentioned some Sigma A-mount glass, but I’d really appreciate a view on the Sigma 150mm f2.8 EX DG OS Macro compatibility. Can we use the LA-EA3 to get continuous focus? I’d also appreciate a view on speed of focusing (which I know isn’t a key strength of Macro lenses – but with continuous mode a possibility, can it keep up with moving objects – i.e. use it as a prime lens for sports?).
Many thanks
Gareth
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Hi Brian – thanks for putting this together. Question on LA-EA3 for video on A7Rii… I’m still confused whether or not it supports AF with SSM glass? I have the 16-35/24-70 and longer zooms and wondering if I can use LA-EA3 to AF in video on A7Rii? Thanks!
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Hey Brian,
Thanks for sharing. This also holds true for the Sony A6000 correct?. I have a bunch of SAM lenses and was thinking of using it with the A6000. So is the LA-EA3 sufficient?.
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Hi Brian
Are there any cropping (or vignetting) done “in camera” when using any of the adapters? In other words, do I still get the benefit of the 42MP or is it scaled down? Thanks for a great review.
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quick question. if purchasing only 1 lens to start for the a7rii, would there be one you would recommend? both for vid/photo…looking to stay around the MYR4,117 (MYR4,117 ($1000)) or less for this first lens…Thank you.
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Hi Brian,
Question.
With a version 1 70-200 2,8 and the 24-70 2,8, using the LA3 adapter, will I LOSE anything, that i have using the FE glass..Lock on?, Eye Focus?/
That’s is what i have a hard time getting my head around.
My A7ll is great…but mounting th A mount glass, leaves me sad I only have the cross point to focus.
Having the constant eye focus, etc. would be terrific.
I await your input. Or perhaps share link where i can learn more. Perhaps I have overlook the answer to my questions, elsewhere.
Cheers,
Ken
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auto focus would be great Thank you!
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Hello Brian, I heard from a video review of A7R2, that when using a third party adapter, the “reduced format APS-C” or in other words : “Crop factor mode from Full frame to APS-C” which is normally available to select in the menu of A7R2, will be lost (No longer available functionality with a third-party adapter)
Would this possibility with A7R2 body, be still available with Sony LA-EA3 adapter ?
Thank you for your site
Kind regards
Jean-Philippe
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thank you for your answer! I’ve been looking at the Sony Sonnar T* FE 55mm f/1.8 ZA Lens for its slightly lower price. Would this also be a good first lens for the a7rii’s or would you highly recommend pushing the +300 to the FE 24-70mm F4 ZA OSS and get a far superior lens? Thank you for your honest follow up answer!
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Brian, I’m interested in getting a wide angle zoom for my Sony a7rII and saw your comments that the Sony 24-70 2.8 ZA SSMII was your new favorite lens and that AF is fast and accurate when used with the LE-AE3 adapter, which I own. Do you think that’s a better camera/lens combo than the Sony/Ziess FE 24-70 4.0 in terms of image quality? Will Lock-on AF work with that combo? Thanks.
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Brian – One more question for you, how would the Sony a7rII and Sony 24-70 2.8 ZA SSMII combo compare to the Sony FE 16-35 lens in terms of image quality?
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Hi Brian, I ‘ve just got my LA-EA3 after reading your articles on the adapters and I was excited to test my Sigma A-mount lenses on my A7R ii. However except the SIgma 35mm f1.4 ART, the 50mm f1.4 ART and 80-200 f2.8 DG both cannot focus.
With the 50mm ART it is never able to land with one focal point and it just keep hunting.
with the 80-200mm it does stop at a point but it’s out of focus.
Would you know the cause? Would it be the camera problem? Is there anything I could do to fix the problems? I am getting a bit desperate here. Thanks very much!
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Hi Brian
Got the Tamron 150-600 for my A7r MKII, it’s focus is pretty good but I have had problems getting tack sharp images, despite using tripod and or 1/1000 and OS when no tripod and various apertures. I have taken several 100 shots and most are soft when viewed at 50-100%. Any ideas? Recommended setting appreciated, it was mainly lions and tigers I tested it on.
Thanks in advance
Ian
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I was just trying my new Sony 135mm STF on my LA-EA4. The lens has dual aperture, but the best that I can tell, the primary aperture only stays wide open. I can manipulate the aperture by hand when the lens is off the adapter. Any hints or tips as to how to proceed? I would like to have more control. I didn’t buy the adapter solely for this lens, I just didn’t want to make extra purchases. Do I need an adapter like the novoflex or Fotodiox that has an aperture ring?
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hi Brian, heard good thing about the Sony 500mm f8 reflex lens (discontinued), what are my options if using this lens with the a7Rll in term of adapter and focusing capability?, thanks in advance
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Can you mount a Minolta 300mm f4 with a 1.4 extender to an LA-EA4 on Sony A7RII?
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Hi Brian, great information and website.
I know this post is for the A7RIi, but having just seen J Lanier’s post on NFL the question of adapters on an A6000 came up. With that camera the autofocus is still only going to work with the la ea4 adaptor and not the 3? Or have I missed something. Is the use of PDAF with the laea3 only on the A7rIi or does it work on other A7 models too?
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Hi. Great work. I used your tutorials and guides to choose the right camera for me. I choose the A7II camera because the A7RII body was too expansive for me. I had a A77 and a lot of great quality motorized lens. So reading this guide I bought both camera and La-EA3 adapter. When the camera arrived and I connected lens to the camera with the LA-EA3 adapter I noticed, with horror, that to get the focus the camera needs two seconds! So you should write that LA-EA3 write well only with A7RII cameras and not with A7II one. So now I have to sell away that adapter and buy the LA-EA4 adapter.
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Hi, thanks for the nice overview! But there is one bug: the Sigma 12-24 mm is a full-frame lens. Cheers L
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… sorry, but I forgot to ask what do you think is the reason why the Sigma 12-24 HSM II does not work with the LA-EA3 adapter (but other Sigmas do well)?
Take care, L
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Hi Brian,
Excellent read. Pretty simple question here, I have an A7R2, using it with native FE lenses (primarily 24-70mm F4) in very low light situations (mainly gigs). I have transitioned from Canon and miss the 2.8 tbh. If I were to purchase an A mount 24-70mm 2.8 with an LA-EA3 adapter, would the focussing be comparable to the native FE lens?
Cheers, all help appreciated!
g
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I found the LA-EA4 vastly helped my Tamron XR Aspherical LD (IF) 28-300mm Macro Model A06 zoom lens to focus sharply and faster on the Sony A7r DSLM camera.
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Great article i do have one question though regarding the 24-70mm 2.8 version 1 and 2.. im thinking of getting either one coz in australia the ver. 2 is almost 1000 more.. so a few questions:
1. just wondering if its worth that much? in terms of using the a7rII i mean with the laea 3.. i know youre getting weather resistance but that’ll basically be useless because the laea 3 is not weather resistant..
2. and also i saw in dxo mark, using the ver. 2 in the a77 has a significant decrease in performance (especially in sharpess) vs the ver. 1. i have the a77 mark II and unfortunately they dont have tests for that camera.. just wondering if you saw any decrease in photo quality using your a mount crop cameras with the version 2..
thanks
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Hey Brian, great article. I did have a question. I attempted to try a few of my SSM Zeiss lenses on an a7rii yesterday (with ae3 adapter) but was only getting 169 AF points rather than the 399. Any idea why?
Also tried on an a7sii and while the LA-EA3 adapter did work., the focusing was terribly slow. Any word on it being compatible as the 7rii?
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Thoughts on the A7sII with the ea-3? Trying to decide between the two (7rII & 7sII) and auto focus with my Zeiss am mount primes is a factor….future post on this? Thanks mate
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Thanks for the info. Does the La ea3 perform better in general than the metabones iv?
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With the new A7ii firmware is something like the Tamron AF 70-200mm f/2.8 Di with la-ea3 now a good combo?
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Nice article and guide, so much helpful indeed, I have a question thou, will the Sony sal 16-105 will work with one of these adaptors?
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Any word as to why Sony has crippled the autofocus speed of a lens when using laea3 to shoot video? Native lenses are able to autofocus quickly when shooting video so there really is no reason for non-native lenses to be crippled. Will Sony ever fix this via firmware or a new adapter? At least for alpha lenses, since there are so few full frame e-mount options right now.
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Hello Brian,
Fantastic reading…
With the 500 Minolta F8 mirror do you you suggest a specific adapter with the A7RII?
Thank you
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Thank you for the great article. Do you know if this applies to A7 ii? I am getting front focus sometimes with LA-EA3, A7m2 and Sigma 24-70 EX DG HSM (I could correct focusing with LA-EA4 but AF micro adjust will not work for ea3). The sigma 105/2.8 HSM Macro does not focus at all. Weirdly all 1.4 lenses I tried the 3 sigma lenses you listed the 50mm Zeiss work very well
I was wondering if the AF with A7m2 and A mount lenses after the update has some considerable drawback relative to a7r2 apart from the coverage and total number of AF points
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Hello Brian!
2 weeks ago I bought: SONY ALFA 7RII with interchangeable adapter that will assist me to use previous lenses that I have for the previous camera SONY ALFA 77V. For some reason the 42MB function works apparently only when the camera is attached to the lenss without adapter. My question is whether SONY lens 24-240 is the kind that will allow me to run my 42MB function in the SONY ALFA 7RII or what will you advise?
Thank you
Yehskeal
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Hi I want to buy Sony A7rii but confused in lenses please recommend me one lens that is good for recording 4k reviews/unboxing and gadgets and good for protatit photography if one lens is not possible kindly suggest to
Thanks.
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Hi. I have confusion about cropping using adaptors. I have scoured the articles to get confirmation but am still none the wiser.
I have the A7rII and both the LA-EA3 adaptor and a Metabones EF-E Mount. When using either my 24-70mm Canon 2.8L or the Zeiss 24-70mm ZA SSM II lens, I am getting cropping of the lens. What I can see through the viewfinder at 24mm no where near as wide as 24mm on my 5DII.
Am I totally missing something here?
Thanks for all the in-depth articles on here, it’s really helped with the Canon to Sony transition I’m slowly making.
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Could you please confirm that I won’t get any better low light AF with A7RII over A7?
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Hi Brian…Thank you so much for the MOST comprehensive Sony coverage I have found. Very easy to read, and packed full of solid information. I have used your page a lot since purchasing my Sony A7ii.
Question though…I would like to know if there’s an adapter that will allow me to use my old Minolta MD 135 mm lens for the A7ii. It seems that many work with the A7 but not the Mark 11.
Any suggestions? Many Thanks…Cecile
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Hi Brian,
I’m looking to upgrade from the Sony A57 to the Sony A7RII.
Currently I have the Tamron 70-200 2.8 (which I really love) and the Tamron 17-50 2.8 lens.
Should I keep either of these and invest in an adapter, or will they not do the A7RII justice? Any idea if Sony is coming out with a 70-200 2.8 fairly soony? I hate the idea of having to get the 70-200 f4. Also, my other concern is that while shooting events I cannot use a flash on the A7RII if I use an adapter with the Tamron 70-200 on it, which I really need to be able to use a flash. Any idea around this? Or would I just need to suck it up and get the 70-200 f4?
Thank you!
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Hi Brian, I would buy the Zeiss Sony 135mm f1.8, but I’m not interested autofocus, there is a Fotodiox adapter MYR124 (MYR124 ($ 30)) that says serves to move the diaphragm aperture and nothing else, you think this combination works well with my a7rii or would have some additional problem the lack of electronic communication ??
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Hi Brian,
Great website and great resource. Question: since DXO tests A-Mount lenses with the 24MP A99 and not on the 42MP A7RII, do you think it’s viable to multiply the DXO sharpness rating by 1.75 (42/24=1.75) to get a proxy of how the A-Mount lens might perform on the A7RII with an LA-EA3 adapter?
I can’t find resources anywhere that assess how well adapted lenses will resolve on the A7RII new sensor.
Thanks,
Arthur
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Great review bryan. I have a question though. Which adapter will work for sony a7rii if i want to use sigma EX AF 50-500 for sony a-mount. Thanks
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Hi Brian. I learned already a lot from you. Thanks.
I owned a Nikon D810 with good lenses.
Because i make more and more video’s, and the Nikon was not the best in that case.
Then i bought the 7Rmk2. Nice camera, and technical perfect.
Lenses, 16-35 + 24-70 + 70-200 and since yesterday the 70-400 + LA-EA3.
Works great. But when i make video ‘s AF-C does not work.
When you press the foto relaese button, he starts sharpening.
But when you lose that button, and start pannig f.i., the AF-C does not follow.
When you press the function button, the screen says, This lens will not work.
Do i something wrong? Arew my settings not correct. Or does ‘nt it work.
In fotosetting all works. But AF-C is not very quick.
Must you update the LA-EA3. I don ‘t think so. The 7R mk2 is updated.
Thanks for your answer and greetings from Giethoorn (Dutch Vienna) in Holland.
Tjardi
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Hey Brian
I’ve been looking true all of the questions and answers and couldn’t find the answer.. So
After the Firmware 2.0 AF update for A7ii does it handle A-mount lenses with LA-EA3 adapter well ? fast focus and so ?
thanks for your help and a great site..
I know both are vastly improved over previous A7 cameras, but is one pairing faster than the other?
I know these telephoto lengths are available in EF mount, but I don’t think I can go from f2.8 to f4.
Thanks again!